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  1. Hameedi is right on about the MFG 'Ring times...

    Hameedi is right on about the MFG 'Ring times being impossible to verify. The MFG's attempting to set 'Ring records are most assuredly using cars not quite identical to showroom examples. To what...
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    I'm liking the stable! Nice selections.

    I'm liking the stable! Nice selections.
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    George, I generally would fall into the camp of...

    George, I generally would fall into the camp of everyone else here, but think the prospect of selling your car to a "stickler" type of collector that needs every last piece of protective plastic that...
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    ^^^ Agree that a non-ACR SE was not a terrible...

    ^^^ Agree that a non-ACR SE was not a terrible idea. There are plenty of people who might have wanted a final year SE car but not necessarily have to drive around with that ridiculous wing on it. ...
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    1:20 would be movin' there. I remember riding a...

    1:20 would be movin' there. I remember riding a GSXR1000 Supersport bike and thinking that 1:27's were quick at that track. But the lack of grip was a big disadvantage and I imagine that a high DF...
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    You'd have approx. $335k after 15 years at 6%. ...

    You'd have approx. $335k after 15 years at 6%. But still, you're point is very valid given the holding costs.
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    LOL, Policy, so true. Everyone hates these...

    LOL, Policy, so true. Everyone hates these threads, yet they are always some of the more popular ones on the forum. The banter is fun, if you can afford the car then you know you're not investing...
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    Excellent point, and also explains the current...

    Excellent point, and also explains the current capped pricing for '05/'06 FGT at the $270k-$300k level. There are always plenty of sub 5k mile cars available. And there must be tons of other bubble...
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    As always, it will boil down to supply/demand. ...

    As always, it will boil down to supply/demand.

    The SE camp believes the demand for SE cars will outstrip the supply of SE cars. The non-SE camp believes the supply will always be too much for...
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    You may be making my point. OTA is a great...

    You may be making my point. OTA is a great example. 99 cars vs. 33 for black and white, yet higher priced. Why?

    Because people have historically been willing to pay up for the color first and...
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    There are too many SE cars, that is a fact. It...

    There are too many SE cars, that is a fact. It does not mean they are not terrific. They are. All of them are. Why? Because (a) a Gen V ACR-E is awesome no matter what color it is painted; (b)...
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    I admit that the dash plaque is very cool, but...

    I admit that the dash plaque is very cool, but all 2017's are anniversary cars.

    The only issue I have with the SE cars, and it really is the only one, is that they just made too many final year...
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    Yeah, I'm going to have to say that probably...

    Yeah, I'm going to have to say that probably looks awesome in the real. Silver'ish cars with red interiors look amazing in person, and my guess is that this does too. With the red driver's stripe...
  14. ^^^ Yes, I've considered these as well. Wanted...

    ^^^ Yes, I've considered these as well. Wanted to see someone else go first though and report on fit/finish, etc. Seems top notch. Thanks for posting.
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    Fun question to rate the most likely future...

    Fun question to rate the most likely future collectors among Gen V. Based purely on production numbers and the likelihood that a certain number of cars within each series will become heavily modded,...
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    Market prices for all goods fluctuate daily....

    Market prices for all goods fluctuate daily. Selling goods during a pandemic crisis is not likely to pull top dollar. For speculators, that is not good and they may be forced to take what they can...
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    No surprise that it did not sell. Worth just...

    No surprise that it did not sell. Worth just holding onto for now.
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    Did the VE car have CCB from the factory? And the...

    Did the VE car have CCB from the factory? And the owner swapped them out? Maybe still has them?
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    Yeah, at that price, I'm a buyer too :)

    Yeah, at that price, I'm a buyer too :)
  20. Most reasonable post in this thread thus far.

    Most reasonable post in this thread thus far.
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    Agree and disagree. Agree that value of...

    Agree and disagree. Agree that value of collector cars is not necessarily dictated by the MSRP or abundance of options. Some of the most valuable of the muscle cars were special race models that...
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    I know that you know my thoughts about your car...

    I know that you know my thoughts about your car by now, but damn, it just does not get any better than that!! That is a "never sell" car.

    Do you know if it's the only one built with that color...
  23. Elsa would say "let it go, let it go....." Can...

    Elsa would say "let it go, let it go....."

    Can you tell that I've been spending a ton of time around 5yo and 8yo little girls? :)
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    ^^^ I like the analysis provided by Bruce that...

    ^^^ I like the analysis provided by Bruce that value is determined by a combination of production volume, color desirability, unique performance upgrades, and miscellaneous other -- likely in that...
  25. This is all a bit ridiculous. I agree that the...

    This is all a bit ridiculous. I agree that the lawsuit sounds like frivolous BS. Suing a substantial sponsor for using photos of the event that have little to no intrinsic or perceived value is...
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