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    New guy question 2

    A good friend in Chicago has had a couple of Vipers in the past. I told him I am considering getting one this spring. He thought that I'd really like one. One of his favorite cars of all time was his Blue with white stripes GTS. He cautioned me though about the availability of parts on the older cars like the Gen I&II. So, I've been reading about the problem and immediately came across this thread on this forum https://driveviper.com/forums/thread...shield-Hunters where they are talking about the apparent total lack of replacement windshields. It seems to me that that is a huge problem for all of the reasons that are mentioned in the thread. It seems like they may have a solution in the works for this but it is not a slam dunk. What about the availability of other parts for the GenII cars?

    What about parts availability for Gen III cars. I'm open to getting a SRT-10 coupe if parts are easier to find. but those cars are at the top top of my budget.

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    So I am a Hugh fan of the Gen II and to be truthful, lack of parts would not deter me from buying a Gen II
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    There are 16 windscreens in France, I found a company that can reproduce screens, there are other companies too.

    Tons of parts available for Gen II Vipers.

    Buy one

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    Why do you like a Gen II over lets say a Gen III

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    So different people have different reasons for the Gen's they like an although I love all Vipers, the Gen II in my opinion is the best looking. The rawness, no nanny stuff and the looks. When they built the Gen V, they built it to look very much like the Gen II
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    I'm sure we all love ALL Vipers, but everyone will be a little biased towards their own - so I'm gonna stick mine up for the gen 3 appreciation society

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    Looks nice, love the Color Combo.. I guess I am bias as you say though!
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    OK IF Pauls throwing up his Gen 3 Im going to Put up my Gen II

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    Gen 2 fan here as well. To me it's the sweet spot for Viper Gens. There are plenty of parts out there. Bulletproof drivetrains. Reliable, great looking Vipers. If you do your homework and get a nice, unmolested car, you will love it.
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    Great looking cars guys. The Gen II vs Gen III debate reminds me of a 1979 Right Guard deodorant commercial where the tag line was "six took stick and six took spray" LOL.

    Re the French windshields, as I understand it, the existence of them has not been verified yet and the price is said to be 1280 pounds ($1673 usd) plus crating and shipping I assume. The Curved Glass Creations solution is attractive if the shape data can be provided and you can get a few guys to join a group buy. The beauty of it is that a form tool will then exist for the future. This is an ongoing project by a few members and I applaud their efforts. Without forums like this I doubt that these things could happen.

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    I went to an event last fall with 30 Vipers. Every Gen present. I was surprised when several Gen V owners told me they regretted selling their Gen ll Vipers. They thought the Gen ll was the best Viper for the road. Loved the raw power and handling of these cars. I think all Vipers are beautiful cars, but there was a big difference in body style when the Gen lll Viper came out. They took away the curves. Less sexy looking in my opinion. Still a beautiful car though.
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    We all get great reactions when out with our Vipers, but it has got to be insane how folks would act in Great Britain with so few Snakes slithering around the Isles?

    Parts can be difficult for many cars 15-25 years old , so that is really not new. I would check with a local glass shop because it seems , over the years , windshields are available at times and then there is a shortage? We often had a wait to get them at Woodhouse , and then the shop we used would be able to secure one -- though the wait was long at times.
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    In the Gen II vs Gen III decision, one thing I like about the Gen II cars is the location of the fuel filler...it's maybe a trivial thing but I like it :-)

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    If you address the items known to fail over time (PS pulley, crank pin, engine mounts etc.) in which parts are readily available through our top notch vendors on this forum, the cars are pretty ROCK SOLID requiring only routine maintenance. A lot of improved "Upgrade" parts are also available .... if that's what you're into as many of us have done (Shifter, exhaust, cats, suspension, brakes,etc). Don't let parts availability deter you. We have excellent resources through our vendors and as you see.... many owners here willing to help.

    Great cars that remains to be a sure eye catcher every time she's out in the wild no matter the Gen. However, (Biased opinion) there's just something special about the GEN2 .IMG_0596.JPG

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    OK IF Pauls throwing up his Gen 3 Im going to Put up my Gen II

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    Man I love your car. If I had a Red GTS I would model it after yours!
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    Order based on styling from good to best:
    Gen III
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    I think that has been the overall consensus more or less. But if hp is what your prioritize, the choice is obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AviP View Post
    Order based on styling from good to best:
    Gen III
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    I think that has been the overall consensus more or less. But if hp is what your prioritize, the choice is obvious.
    Starting from the bottom I presume

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonicbloo View Post
    Starting from the bottom I presume
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    There are very very few parts that are hard to get for the Gen 2. But then again, how often do you change your headlight buckets?

    Don't let the garage queenies that never drive their cars and don't have a clue how to work on them set the parts availability standard. I can find every maintenance and wear part that I will ever need. And all of the sh!t what just went boom parts too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hemi steve View Post
    Great looking cars guys. The Gen II vs Gen III debate reminds me of a 1979 Right Guard deodorant commercial where the tag line was "six took stick and six took spray" LOL.

    Re the French windshields, as I understand it, the existence of them has not been verified yet and the price is said to be 1280 pounds ($1673 usd) plus crating and shipping I assume. The Curved Glass Creations solution is attractive if the shape data can be provided and you can get a few guys to join a group buy. The beauty of it is that a form tool will then exist for the future. This is an ongoing project by a few members and I applaud their efforts. Without forums like this I doubt that these things could happen.

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    Steve, don't think I would worry about the windshield as deterrent. As far as other parts, the Gen 2 viper shared tons of them from the entire Chrysler lineup. I got to meet Roy Sjoberg aka "Father Viper" not long ago and he likened the Gen 1 and 2 vipers to the old Johnny Cash song "One Piece at a time". He said that to keep production costs down, he used a lot from existing parts bins. The window switches were used in the PT Cruiser. The brake handle is out of a Lebaron. Windshield wiper motors are from the rear of a Caravan etc..etc..

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    Scrambling for parts, or having to pay a premium for some ... All part of the fun! Seriously though, I wouldn't let worries about that deter me. It's worth it to own and enjoy a Viper.

    Having this community, and folks like JonB, tends to produce whatever you may need. As for Gen 2 vs Gen 3, I've owned both ... Admittedly a Coupe-only guy, so 2006 was my only option.

    I loved my '01 GTS, sometimes regret selling it some years back. But the offer was too good to turn down. For me, the rear end of the '06 Coupe is the best look, even if the hood opens the wrong way ;-)

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