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    Viper sucks hind titty at Barrett Jackson

    After watching a couple hours of shit sell for $50K-100K, a 2,000 mile 2014 GTS brings only mid 80's; a nice $65K + loss from MSRP. Great looking red with black stripes. Very disrespectful.
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    My opinion is you cant go by the inflated sticker prices Chrysler put on the early Gen V's. also, you cant go by what the prices are at Barrett Jackson OR EVEN SOME OF THE OTHER AUCTIONS. It is common knowledge that all sales are NOT arm's length transactions, which would account for some of the ridiculous prices that are seen.
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    Interesting discussion point. More to come......
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    Quote Originally Posted by desert venom racer View Post
    after watching a couple hours of shit sell for $50k-100k, a 2,000 mile 2014 gts brings only mid 80's; a nice $65k + loss from msrp. Great looking red with black stripes. Very disrespectful.
    i always said!!! Over and over again! Never sell your car at bj's, will not get the price, unless you want a great deal to buy one!

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    Having done two Woodhouse/Hurst Charity Vehicles ( custom matte Gold Viper and white and gold convertible, supercharged Mustang) I can attest that there is an absolutely ridiculous amount of gamesmanship and politics to get your car in on Friday or Saturday. Saturday is the Willy Wonka , Golden Ticket Day, and the fact that many of the Vipers went out yesterday did not bode well for the sales , imho. Viperman4125 is somewhat right, as there are definite solid times and those that will not garner great money.

    I honestly believe Iacocca's Snake would have brought more money today or Saturday, but overall not a bad purchase . One of the things that has astounded me , over the years, is that many of the cars one sees on TV are a lot rougher in person and the money they bring is indicative of that. Couple of friends contacted me and said some of the Vipers were not primo and that should not come as a surprise to anyone. The 2010 Final Edition was a bit of a let down, but it was made to appear to be a Canadian version , and though it seems silly when they all came from the same Plant, but a Canadian Viper will not bring as much money.

    I guess we will all have to see what the next few days bring? Gotta believe the alcohol intake will be rising and therefore so will the prices, ha!
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    Bill is correct. My buddy PythonPete used to go to the Mecum Florida auctions all the time and he said most of the Vipers there as well as many other marquees were in surprisingly rough shape. That doesn't come across on TV of course but explains some of the low ball sale prices.

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    Hijack...what became of "pythonpete"...did he sell his car?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Venom Racer View Post
    After watching a couple hours of shit sell for $50K-100K, a 2,000 mile 2014 GTS brings only mid 80's; a nice $65K + loss from MSRP. Great looking red with black stripes. Very disrespectful.
    I believe that 2014 hammered in at $87K. With the bidders 10% premium the buyer would be in it at just over $95K. Seems respectful given the rest of the market for other 2014 GTS cars.

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    Seems like there are much better ways to sell ones car. If I sell a car that's worth ~$100k, the buyer will likely only pay ~$91k (to account for the 10% buyers fee), and then I will pay an 8% seller's fee on the sale price, so I would only end up ~$84k for my $100k vehicle! Is the auction atmosphere and marketing significant enough to overcome that? Maybe in the past where it was hard to reach buyers, but today you can post it online for all potential buyers to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderbisonACR View Post
    Seems like there are much better ways to sell ones car. If I sell a car that's worth ~$100k, the buyer will likely only pay ~$91k (to account for the 10% buyers fee), and then I will pay an 8% seller's fee on the sale price, so I would only end up ~$84k for my $100k vehicle! Is the auction atmosphere and marketing significant enough to overcome that? Maybe in the past where it was hard to reach buyers, but today you can post it online for all potential buyers to see.
    I understand that a $100,000 hammer, the buyer pays $110,000. The seller gets $92,000. This is the general rule. With relationships, come perks. More cars sold, less commission charged to seller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viperenvy View Post
    I understand that a $100,000 hammer, the buyer pays $110,000. The seller gets $92,000. This is the general rule. With relationships, come perks. More cars sold, less commission charged to seller.
    Part of my point was that the buyer will likely only bid ~$91k for a $100k car, because they will take the 10% buyer's fee into consideration in the bid amount.

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    Will the SE cars be on Saturday docket?
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    There seems to some partial information in this thread. Gen V cars do not seem to be bringing the money, but some of the Gen I cars brought, in my opinion, extremely good money. As there is more than one Gen......limiting the "value of Vipers" to one specific range of model years is not exactly representative. Gen I cars that were owned by "famous" people that have 7 or 8k miles bringing 70-90k? That is not "good" money? Huh?

    And yeah....I know......BJ is not representative.....blah...blah.....blah. Same thing every year is said. Seems like the Gen I owners who sold were smart. Really smart. They could trade up to Gen V from a Gen I.

    Let the Gen Wars Start!!!!! (Note that this thread is in the General thread, so I think the comment is justified)

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    The voodoo and SSG gen4s brought crazy money! 210k and 127k respectively. I know the SSG car was like #1 but that voodoo price was awesome. I missed a voodoo purchase for like 80k 4 years ago. My bad on that one!

    I know take BJ prices with a grain of salt, but wow.
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    Great hammer prices so far on snakes, seems to transcend generations. Gen IV is winning...so far. Let's see what the 1:28, SSG ACR & the Ring car do.
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    Good news from RM Sotheby auction in Scottsdale yesterday. My buddy went to bid on a 2002 Final Edition ACR. Hoping to purchase south of $60K, he didn't even get a bid in. It went for $110K! See listing below:
    https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/a...edition/841847
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    Correction: $115K which included a 12% buyer premium.
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    Wither buyer's premium:

    2005 SRT-10 Convertible, 15k miles, $55,000
    1993 RT/10, 617 miles, $50,600
    1997 B/W GTS, 11k miles, $55,000
    1993 RT/10, 6k miles, $42,900
    1992 RT/10, 333 miles, $55,000
    2010 SRT/10 Convertible, 12k miles, $66,000
    2014 GTS, 2k miles, $95,700
    2008 SRT/10, 10k miles, $56,100
    1995 RT/10, 4k miles, $69,300
    1992 RT/10, 4k miles, $46,200
    1992 RT/10 John Elway, 8k miles, $88,000
    2017 GTC, 70 miles, $132,000
    2010 ACR 1:33 #1, 1400 miles, $126,500
    2010 ACR SSG #1, 6k miles, $139,700
    2010 ACR Voodoo #1, 8k miles, $236,500
    2010 ACR/X, 4 miles, $126,500
    2010 ACR 1:33, 10 miles, $117,700

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Venom Racer View Post
    After watching a couple hours of shit sell for $50K-100K, a 2,000 mile 2014 GTS brings only mid 80's; a nice $65K + loss from MSRP. Great looking red with black stripes. Very disrespectful.
    I just turned down a 2013 with 6k miles for $75k. Beautiful car but I have never seen the color in person and didn't dare pull the trigger. $140k sticker GTS.

    Mid $80s is about right considering the extra fees.

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    Surprised the 92 that crossed the block expected higher

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    Seems like it really matters if the car has a unique distinction. An example is the #001 Gen 1. The buyer is in it for the history, prior ownership, number, significance of its creation etc.

    The continuity in that vein transcended generations. The Voodoo was numbered, Special Edition, has historical & manufacturer unique significance. Then the same thing occurred with the Gen V's.

    It's starting to sink in that the plant is closed & that you can't order one anymore. 5 snakes hammered yesterday for 1/4 mill range inclusive of juice. Let the bidding wars continue...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Policy Limits View Post
    Seems like it really matters if the car has a unique distinction. An example is the #001 Gen 1. The buyer is in it for the history, prior ownership, number, significance of its creation etc.

    The continuity in that vein transcended generations. The Voodoo was numbered, Special Edition, has historical & manufacturer unique significance. Then the same thing occurred with the Gen V's.

    It's starting to sink in that the plant is closed & that you can't order one anymore. 5 snakes hammered yesterday for 1/4 mill range inclusive of juice. Let the bidding wars continue...
    Pretty unbelievable actually as this is the first new car I have ever purchased that is worth more than what I paid for it three years later

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    Hell I'd be happy to just break even after owning it a few years. Anything else is a bonus.

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    Agreed. I lost on everything else including Bentley, Lamborghini and Maserati.
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    The prices with the buyer premium look pretty favorable for Viper owners, particularly the Gen I and II cars. I think Vipers have held their value pretty well and it certainly looks like the quality original examples are holding their value nicely and in some cases appreciating. There are not many 20-30 year old cars that you can say that about.


 
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