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    Door panel and window help needed

    Hoping someone can provide me with the part number and or link to order these metal door panel upper clips.

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    Back story- After having my door rattling and window misalignment a number of times by the dealer I decided the general rule of thumb with these cars” If you want something right do it yourself” I ordered the window Boss kit knowing that these cars have a problem with the plastic tube on the window regulator and took apart the door.
    This post and video really helps with the disassembly of the door and window components.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElzX1lFkuEE

    https://driveviper.com/forums/thread...rcement-How-To

    After opening it up I discovered a number of issues with the door and window that look like a problem from the design of the car. 3 of the 4 plastic door hardware pieces that connect the window to the window regulator were broken (factory part 68349598AA - Genuine Mopar RETAINER-Glass To LIFTPLATE (moparpartsgiant.com) . Thankfully Doug Shelby has a better replacement https://www.dougshelbyengineering.co...indow-boss-kit
    I also found that my friendly dodge mechanic had previously broken 4 of the 10 push pin retainer clips that hold the 2 door panels in 6509673AA - Genuine Mopar Pin-Door Panel ATTACHING (moparpartsgiant.com).

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    - - - Updated - - -

    Since I had the door apart I decided to install some sound damping material as I was tired of my car sounding like a 1972 pinto when closing the door https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    WOW what a difference the door now sounds like a solid thud when it closes without any rattling or vibrations.

    I would highly recommend installing the window regulator Boss kit, Shelby improved window hardware and some sound dampening to the doors, sooner or later you will need to, do it while the parts are available
    And please help me get the part number to the metal clip at the start of this post
    Good Luck and thank you
    Dennis

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    I believe you are looking for 68203759AA.
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    My door has a few broken push pins and I lost the part number. I believe they were around $10/ea from the Dodge dealership. Anyone got the part number handy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I also found that my friendly dodge mechanic had previously broken 4 of the 10 push pin retainer clips that hold the 2 door panels in 6509673AA - Genuine Mopar Pin-Door Panel ATTACHING (moparpartsgiant.com).
    These?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hootie View Post
    I believe you are looking for 68203759AA.
    Hootie
    Thank you for the help. I did not notice that part in the schematic. Although it doesn’t show the picture of the part it is an accurate description and there are not any other parts on that page that are unaccounted for
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrokerAce View Post
    My door has a few broken push pins and I lost the part number. I believe they were around $10/ea from the Dodge dealership. Anyone got the part number handy?
    https://www.moparpartsgiant.com/part...ra2=&filter=()

    This has both parts of the push pin retainer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Hootie
    Thank you for the help. I did not notice that part in the schematic. Although it doesn’t show the picture of the part it is an accurate description and there are not any other parts on that page that are unaccounted for
    I did a Google search on the part number and the images look like the right part. Did yours break? When I had my panel off one of them bent where it 'bites' into the door panel, but I was able to bend it back with success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAA96 View Post
    1972 pinto haha
    A picture for all you young guys that don’t know what a Pinto is- Rather sporty in orange!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hootie View Post
    I did a Google search on the part number and the images look like the right part. Did yours break? When I had my panel off one of them bent where it 'bites' into the door panel, but I was able to bend it back with success.
    two of them had the tooth part beak off. I don’t think they are designed to be pulled on and off many times, for $.69 each I rather have a few extra on hand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    https://www.moparpartsgiant.com/part...ra2=&filter=()

    This has both parts of the push pin retainer
    Excellent! Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    two of them had the tooth part beak off. I don’t think they are designed to be pulled on and off many times, for $.69 each I rather have a few extra on hand
    Swear they are $10/ea from the dealer!
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    https://www.clipsandfasteners.com/Ch...A-p/a21601.htm
    That’s the place I buy most of my clips from. They have pretty much everything

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    Hawk - nice writeup !

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    Hawk or whomever has an opinion -

    I'm curious as I will be opening my doors soon to do exactly the same thing... Is the general consensus that if you're going to be in there and your windows are working fine to go ahead with the reinforcement kit? It strikes me as a great idea regardless, but I also don't see much about folks doing it as frequently as the DSE bosses. I'd certainly rather measure two or three times and cut once, but I also don't care to waste time/money if there's really not much reason to bother.

    The reinforcement kit I'm aware of: https://www.theviperstore.com/Viper5...Mechanical.htm

    EDIT: I guess a tangential question would be about window adjustment after taking the windows out. Any issues with re-fitment or similar?
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    I used that kit from the Viper Store. I will let you know about any adjustment next week when the parts arrive and I get them installed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I used that kit from the Viper Store. I will let you know about any adjustment next week when the parts arrive and I get them installed.
    Got it, interested to see how that goes. I did look through the service manual, and while it looks relatively simple the adjustment process didn't make me super enthusiastic about doing it.
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    I did my alignment with a set of calipers and it went smoothly.
    IIRC, the DSE bosses didn't leave much room to adjust glass fore/aft position. Didn't matter as it ended up perfect on the first go anyway.
    The reinforcement kit, in my experience, was a hassle. The holes in the bracket needed to be opened up to sit flush with the regulator plate, then the bracket didn't fit the regulator length well so trying to get the little screws into the plastic holes in regulator ended up with the holes tearing. Lastly, the supplied hardware is too short and you need to purchase longer screws. All that being said, I ended up ditching the reinforcement kit and sending mine too powerwindowrepair in AZ and they came back wrapped in wire supports and a lifetime warranty. Happy with the results from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hootie View Post
    I did my alignment with a set of calipers and it went smoothly.
    IIRC, the DSE bosses didn't leave much room to adjust glass fore/aft position. Didn't matter as it ended up perfect on the first go anyway.
    The reinforcement kit, in my experience, was a hassle. The holes in the bracket needed to be opened up to sit flush with the regulator plate, then the bracket didn't fit the regulator length well so trying to get the little screws into the plastic holes in regulator ended up with the holes tearing. Lastly, the supplied hardware is too short and you need to purchase longer screws. All that being said, I ended up ditching the reinforcement kit and sending mine too powerwindowrepair in AZ and they came back wrapped in wire supports and a lifetime warranty. Happy with the results from them.
    Very interesting...so you removed everything and mailed them off to be reworked? Do you happen to remember what that cost you by chance?
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    For my specific repair (and reinforcement) it was $329 I think, shipping both ways on customer's dime. Cheaper than a new regulator and shouldn't have any future issues.

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