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  1. #151
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    The 9L option peaked my interest, the crankshaft is about 7400. It's tempting, but need to stay disciplined

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    The 9L option peaked my interest, the crankshaft is about 7400. It's tempting, but need to stay disciplined
    I get it's a slippery slope, but if you're going to spend as much as you are and get new rods and new pistons and etc - with as much downtime as you are, dude....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawineer View Post
    I get it's a slippery slope, but if you're going to spend as much as you are and get new rods and new pistons and etc - with as much downtime as you are, dude....
    I couldn't right now, the market is tanking, then the price to pull/install. Headers of course then the labor for that. I think the stock clutch holds 700whp? So I'd need to consider that too

    Edit: yeah I just spoke to sneaky, 4-5 launches with the 9L and the clutch is gone
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    Been Tracking my 9L with my stock clutch for 2 years now. clutch still healthy. if you want to drag race it or launch it then you need Triple carbon clutch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theacr_viper View Post
    Been Tracking my 9L with my stock clutch for 2 years now. clutch still healthy. if you want to drag race it or launch it then you need Triple carbon clutch.
    This.
    Don't drag race out of the hole with drag radials and you won't burn it up haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawineer View Post
    This.
    Don't drag race out of the hole with drag radials and you won't burn it up haha.
    You are a terrible influence haha
    If I pick up a contract, I'll consider it

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    Stock clutch will hold well in excess of 1k hp. I still think the issue with launching is the crappy 2.29 first gear.
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    for the outlay mentioned.. a 9L does seem to make sense..

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    Worst case, you upgrade the clutch in a year or two. But you can't just upgrade the crank. That's a whole new bottom end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawineer View Post
    Worst case, you upgrade the clutch in a year or two. But you can't just upgrade the crank. That's a whole new bottom end.
    The parts would all be different, but the only additional cost would be the crankshaft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    The parts would all be different, but the only additional cost would be the crankshaft
    If you're saying the only cost now would be the crankshaft, that's correct. If you're saying later, that's incorrect. You'd, at least, need new rods. You'd also probably want a different cam and ned a new tune.
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    that doesnt seem like a lot of extra $$ for the extra hp/tq!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRT_BluByU View Post
    that doesnt seem like a lot of extra $$ for the extra hp/tq!
    If I didn't already drop 15k into it, I'd entertain it

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    I havent heard any regrets with a 9L yet..

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    Are there 2 options for 9L?
    A 12000 option and a 24000 option?

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    How much more would it cost for the crank?

    Given how precise everything has to be, honestly, I've never been a fan of reuisng reground or repolished cranks. Given how precise everything has to be. If you want reliability (miles), a new crank is more important than forged pistons or fancy new forged rods. Forged stuff is for strength (hold the power). It doesn't do a single thing for reliability (durability/wear and tear).

    That's just me though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawineer View Post
    How much more would it cost for the crank?

    Given how precise everything has to be, honestly, I've never been a fan of reuisng reground or repolished cranks. Given how precise everything has to be. If you want reliability (miles), a new crank is more important than forged pistons or fancy new forged rods. Forged stuff is for strength (hold the power). It doesn't do a single thing for reliability (durability/wear and tear).

    That's just me though.
    For the 9.0L option, 7.4k then he just changes what we have listed with the appropriate parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper View Post
    Are there 2 options for 9L?
    A 12000 option and a 24000 option?
    I think with prefix, there is.
    I'm going with a different builder, all his builds are custom, so you just tell him what you're looking for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    I think with prefix, there is.
    I'm going with a different builder, all his builds are custom, so you just tell him what you're looking for
    Tell him cheap, reliable and fast! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrokerAce View Post
    Tell him cheap, reliable and fast! lol
    Ha ha! That + rainbows and unicorns. Those words don't go together. You start laying out the cash....then you think....hmmmm....while I'm here, let me add this...that...and...this is only X amount of dollars extra...50k later. It's expensive, less reliable and very fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gen5snake View Post
    Ha ha! That + rainbows and unicorns. Those words don't go together. You start laying out the cash....then you think....hmmmm....while I'm here, let me add this...that...and...this is only X amount of dollars extra...50k later. It's expensive, less reliable and very fast.
    As soon as lawineer mentioned the crankshaft, the hamster wheel started turning for sure
    But Kevin was super honest, I told him what my budget is and he came up with a rebuild that'll also make more power. Actually persuaded me against upgrading even more

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrokerAce View Post
    Tell him cheap, reliable and fast! lol
    I've come to fine out that Viper and cheap no longer go together.
    To think that these were selling at a discount+you could get heads and cam done under warranty with arrow at one point. I missed the boat


 
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