Maybe the safest jackstand system for a Viper yet??

[TrackAire]

Just found this on accident on Jay Leno's garage. It would work perfect for a Viper since it lifts and sets the jack stand in the correct "jacking" point. About $300 per pair, if you don't have an automotive lift, I can't think of a safer way to support a Viper on the ground if you have to work under or around it.

http://www.jackpointjackstands.com/

[Victxv10]

Pretty cool idea! Wish they were a little taller.

[viper_eddie]

I use ESCO jack stands and they're a much better value than this product, imho. Plus as others have mentioned, always good to have a rim laid down horizontally in case of something bad.

[Redx]

+1 for ESCO, bought a set last year before i got a hoist, for the price they cant be beat.

http://www.amazon.com/ESCO-Jack-Stan.../dp/B0019JVIPM

[Camfab]

Those are a brilliant idea! The other jack stands you guys mentioned are just regular style stands, they simply can't replicate what these stands can achieve. I'll go so far as to say, that no three point jack stand is safe, unless your using a lift to drop your car onto them. I'd give that product the award for the best mechanics tool of the decade. Thanks for the link.

[TooBlue]

Great idea but I'm afraid my cars are too low. I doubt I could get the jack AND the jack stand pad under the jack point.

[Steve M]

Those are a brilliant idea! The other jack stands you guys mentioned are just regular style stands, they simply can't replicate what these stands can achieve. I'll go so far as to say, that no three point jack stand is safe, unless your using a lift to drop your car onto them. I'd give that product the award for the best mechanics tool of the decade. Thanks for the link.

I'm sorry, but what? Other jack stands achieve exactly what these do - provide a stable base to set your car down on. These are a gimmick at best - they appear to be cast, have a high likelihood of damaging your floor or pavement due to no pads to distribute the weight, and to top it off, have no height adjustment. They would be fine for doing brake work, but that's about it.

Lifting a car onto jack stands is not rocket science...just use some common sense, and have a backup in place. Nothing is fool proof, but I have no problem crawling under my car with Esco jack stands in place.

[viper_eddie]

Those are a brilliant idea! The other jack stands you guys mentioned are just regular style stands, they simply can't replicate what these stands can achieve. I'll go so far as to say, that no three point jack stand is safe, unless your using a lift to drop your car onto them. I'd give that product the award for the best mechanics tool of the decade. Thanks for the link.

In addition, most jack stands have three legs/points/whatever you want to call them because a triangle shape is the most stable shape.

Also, I would rather use Rhino Ramps than these stands being advertised; a lot cheaper, easier to use and get you the same (low) height.

[TrackAire]

I'm sorry, but what? Other jack stands achieve exactly what these do - provide a stable base to set your car down on. These are a gimmick at best - they appear to be cast, have a high likelihood of damaging your floor or pavement due to no pads to distribute the weight, and to top it off, have no height adjustment. They would be fine for doing brake work, but that's about it.

Lifting a car onto jack stands is not rocket science...just use some common sense, and have a backup in place. Nothing is fool proof, but I have no problem crawling under my car with Esco jack stands in place.

I feel the Esco's are the best all around "jack stand" for the money. But, where many people have issues is jacking the car up and putting a jack stand under the car in a location other than the jacking points (on frame, etc). That is where mistakes and accidents can happen since the frame is so damn stiff. This system uses the jacking points to lift and support the car. My car is too low for my screw jack system on the front, I have to drive onto a 1" pad with the front tires to be able to get my jacks under the lifting point....and when not tracking, my car is slammed and a 1" front pad is enough for both my screw jacks and my low profile floor jack.

I see this system as just one more option for those that have to lift the car while on the ground and get the tires off.

[Bugman Jeff]

Neat concept and good for changing wheels/brakes, but they're not tall enough for any under car work(where you're more likely to get killed instead of injured should a stand fail).

[Dajerseyviper]

they look too wide and cumbersome.

[cashcorn]

Not to be off topic. but when jacking up the front using the jacking point. Where is the best placement for the jack stands when doing an oil change?

[Steve M]

Not to be off topic. but when jacking up the front using the jacking point. Where is the best placement for the jack stands when doing an oil change?

Here's how I do it for my Gen 4 (Gen 3/4/5 should be about the same)...

Here are the factory jacking points:



I grab the rear of the frame in the center of the car (there's a cutout in the underbelly exposing the cross piece) and jack up both rear tires at once. I place a jack stand under each rear factory jacking point, and let the jack down...as the rear tires droop, it will bring the front of the car up a bit so you can get your jack under one of the two factory front jacking points. I then place the other two jack stands under the more central part of the frame. I keep the driver's side jack stand towards the front...if you put it in the same spot as the passenger side front jack stand, it'll block your access to the oil drain plug. Hopefully this explains it a bit better:



I then keep my jack in contact with one of the front jacking points as an extra precaution. You could also place the jack stands under the central part of the frame, and then move your jack to raise the car up from that location and move them outboard, but that's another step you'd have to take.

There are many ways to skin this cat...that's how I do it.

[cashcorn]

Very informative.. Thanks for sharing and taking the time... Greg

[Steve M]

And for reference, this is my jack (AC Hydraulics DK13HLQ - very long, low profile):





I modified this jack pad:

http://www.purems.com/Products/PROTE...-Lift-Jack-Pad



So that it would fit in the opening of the underbelly pan (approx. 3" x 3" opening) and grab the cross piece of the frame (approx. 1" wide) under there:





It ain't pretty, but it works. Stuff is hard as hell to cut.

[cashcorn]

Steve M, Great info! Never thought about the 3"x3" opening in the belly pan..

[TrackAire]

Steve,

Who did you buy your AC Hydraulics DK13HLQ jack from? Only seen Pelican sell them. My friends in Europe swear they are the best.

Are you happy with the jack and its performance?

[Steve M]

Steve M, Great info! Never thought about the 3"x3" opening in the belly pan..

I've also heard of people modifying a hockey puck (or two) to use as a jack pad. It seems to be what the opening was made for...the cross brace runs right through the middle of it.

Steve,

Who did you buy your AC Hydraulics DK13HLQ jack from? Only seen Pelican sell them. My friends in Europe swear they are the best.

Are you happy with the jack and its performance?

It's been years since I bought it...I can't even remember at this point who I got it from. It was about $550-ish shipped with the rubber jack pad once upon a time. It appears that Pelican is the only distributor that carries it anymore. I see that ASE Deals carries something similar:

http://www.asedeals.com/jacks/floor-...gh-lift-90535/

...but I can't vouch for that one. The AC Hydraulics jack is by far the nicest one I've ever used...it has a quick lift foot pedal, and is very easy to control coming down regardless of handle position. The super long reach combined with the high lift is really, really nice. I've owned mine since about 2007 or 2008, and I'd buy it again in a heartbeat if something ever happened to it. I own a lot of Harbor Freight tools, but a jack is something I decided to splurge on, and I wasn't disappointed.

[Vprbite]

Side bar, Steve M, but a lot of us own the low profile Jack from harbor freight. It is a hidden gem in that store. Seriously, it's actually not bad. Considering that place can f$#k up painters tape, their low pro jack is surprisingly good.

And I think these products look pretty cool.,especially for quick wheel on/wheel off stuff. I see why it's not tall enough for hardcore work underneath. But detailing, brake stuff, putting on race wheels, seems pretty good.

[Fatboy 18]

I Like the idea of those, 4 legs as opposed to 3 and like the idea of slipping it around the jack pad.

But the best part is, its ALL Made in USA Not China or some other place.

Well done to the inventor

[Fatboy 18]

Have to say if I was setting up a new garage from scratch, I would buy these, but I have a load of old stuff I get by on. I do like using good ole timber too.

[Angleiron]

I am contemplating getting this.

http://myliftstand.com/

[FrgMstr]

Worth every cent...

[Angleiron]

Another viable option

http://www.kwik-lift.com/products_authorize.php

[Vprbite]

I will soon be purchasing the ranger quicklift. life just keeps getting in the way.


Check out their site or call them. They are super helpful on the phone. And can answer any questions you have.