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    Has anyone tried low dust brake pads?

    Any recommendations for pads if your actually using them? Thanks.

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    Just bought a set of hawks from a member here. Would like feedback before i throw them on
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    Most low dust pads are not very performance oriented if that matters to you. Brake dust is corrosive to paint and wheels so leaving it go is bad for them. Carbotech is the only pad manufacturer that has a compound where the dust is non corrosive so you get great braking and no damage even though the dust is there. I generally keep a separate duster for the wheels and after they cool dust them off to keep everything looking good between cleanings.
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    Mark,

    I run Hawk PC (Performance Ceramics) on my daily drivers (CTS-V, Camaro, etc) and never had issues with corrosion, even after weeks of rainy weather and no washes. I have also had the EBC redstuff pads on my Gen 3 Viper since it was new, no problems there either.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nine Ball View Post
    Mark,

    I run Hawk PC (Performance Ceramics) on my daily drivers (CTS-V, Camaro, etc) and never had issues with corrosion, even after weeks of rainy weather and no washes. I have also had the EBC redstuff pads on my Gen 3 Viper since it was new, no problems there either.
    No experience first hand with EBC, don't care for them personally. I ran the Hawks for a long time (contingency money) and they totally discolored the sides of my car from being on the track, could have been just the hot dust not sure and to be fair I never leave dust on my own wheels long enough to hurt them either. I like the CT pads though everyone knows that so I may be a little biased no doubt ;-)
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    I'm running the Carbotech Bobcat compound on my ACR on the street. They still dust..maybe 30% less than the factory pads but instead of being rust colored, it is actually a gray color. It doesn't seem to stick as much to the wheels as the factory pad dust does either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjorgensen View Post
    No experience first hand with EBC, don't care for them personally. I ran the Hawks for a long time (contingency money) and they totally discolored the sides of my car from being on the track, could have been just the hot dust not sure and to be fair I never leave dust on my own wheels long enough to hurt them either. I like the CT pads though everyone knows that so I may be a little biased no doubt ;-)

    That might be true for their competition and race pads, but the PC ceramics have like no dust at all. Very clean pads.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyRon View Post
    I'm running the Carbotech Bobcat compound on my ACR on the street. They still dust..maybe 30% less than the factory pads but instead of being rust colored, it is actually a gray color. It doesn't seem to stick as much to the wheels as the factory pad dust does either.
    How are they compared to the stock pads in terms of stopping power? I don't care for the dust they produce, but I really like the initial bite, especially when cold. At this point, I live with the dust because I like the performance, but have considered the Bobcats as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nine Ball View Post
    That might be true for their competition and race pads, but the PC ceramics have like no dust at all. Very clean pads.
    Ok got it, I have never run anything but a competition pad on my cars so I'm no expert in other offerings like the ceramic. Thanks Tony
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    My experience is on 2 previous SRT Challengers but I ran Hawk Yellow Ceramic pads and they cut the dust by 80% IMO. I did not track the car but for street use they were awesome. I am switching to Hawks on my Viper soon as I do not plan to do any track stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeBeep View Post
    My experience is on 2 previous SRT Challengers but I ran Hawk Yellow Ceramic pads and they cut the dust by 80% IMO. I did not track the car but for street use they were awesome. I am switching to Hawks on my Viper soon as I do not plan to do any track stuff.
    I don't see any Hawk ceramic pads for gen V vipers on their website

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    Quote Originally Posted by apeas2 View Post
    I don't see any Hawk ceramic pads for gen V vipers on their website
    The part number is HB193Z.670, front and back set is same part number. I verified that number with another member of the board as well. That number fits several years of Viper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeBeep View Post
    The part number is HB193Z.670, front and back set is same part number. I verified that number with another member of the board as well. That number fits several years of Viper.
    Im not so sure they will fit a 2014 SRT

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    2003-2016 Vipers all have the same brake calipers, should be same pads. Mark, can you confirm?

    The only models with different calipers are TA's and ACR-X.


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    What Nine Ball said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nine Ball View Post
    2003-2016 Vipers all have the same brake calipers, should be same pads. Mark, can you confirm?

    The only models with different calipers are TA's and ACR-X.
    Yes you are correct Tony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M View Post
    How are they compared to the stock pads in terms of stopping power? I don't care for the dust they produce, but I really like the initial bite, especially when cold. At this point, I live with the dust because I like the performance, but have considered the Bobcats as well.
    I feel they are just as good (within 5% or so which is probably the limit of my seat of the pants meter). They will lock up the fronts at will, even in colder temps. I did bed them in with 8x 60-0 90% lockup repeated stops and run some 120 grit over the rotor surface to remove the old pad material. I can also say that they don't squeal with light applications and slow speeds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyRon View Post
    I feel they are just as good (within 5% or so which is probably the limit of my seat of the pants meter). They will lock up the fronts at will, even in colder temps. I did bed them in with 8x 60-0 90% lockup repeated stops and run some 120 grit over the rotor surface to remove the old pad material. I can also say that they don't squeal with light applications and slow speeds.
    Thanks for the feedback...sounds like they'd be an option when that time comes.
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    I was driving my car the other day and braked from 120 to around 70 going up a hill and the wheel was moving left and right by itself...

    What causes that!? It already feels unsettling braking on a smooth flat surface.
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    Could be alignment related, could be the tires tramlining. Probably a combination of both.
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