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    • Profile photo ofSteve FessSteve-Indy
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      IMPORTANT UPDATE/WARNING on the EVOLUTION and AGE of Gen V Viper Differential Fluids:

      For the early history of this specific fluid, see post # 1 in this 2015 thread on the VOA Legacy Forums.
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      https://driveviperforums.com/forums/threads/10104-FINAL-answer-on-Gen-V-Viper-Differential-lubricant-plus-a-Gen-IV-tip

      Keep in mind that MOPAR stopped supplying their branded version of the Castrol Syntrax Limited Slip 75W-140 somewhere around 2018-2019. It was NOT listed in the pdf version Chrysler/MOPAR “2020 Vehicle Lubricant & Chemical Catalog”. While a few bottles existed at some dealerships, many of us had already started buying the Castrol version directly from Mercedes dealerships that came in metric equivalents of pints and quarts…at an excellent price. The pint size (actually 500 ml) has a very handy extendable spout. INTERESTINGLY, this Castrol Syntrax Limited Slip 75W-140 has now disappeared from many Mercedes dealerships…and, from Castrol’s online product list.

      The latest Castrol differential product for Mercedes AMG’s, BMW M series, Nissan GTR’s, and PRESUMABLY Gen V Vipers that supersedes the Syntrax Limited Slip 75W-140 is Castrol Transmax Limited Slip LL 75W-140. The container looks like the Syntrax…with the same cool spout on the 500ml bottles which sell for $26.75 apiece retail (tax included) here in Indy today. While it puzzles me that Castrol picked the name “Transmax” for a differential lubricant, the Castrol Tech Supporyt Help Line in the UK who I contacted by telephone TODAY assured me that the Transmax Limited Slip LL 75W-140 is an IMPROVED lube for our differentials.

      IMPORTANT RECENT DISCOVERY by Viper Wizard Chuck Tator (Owner of Tator’s Garage…Head of VOA Tech Committee):
      While preparing to use some of the original MOPAR “SAE75W-140Gear and Axle Lubricant” in a Gen V Viper differential, Chuck noticed that this “fluid” had turned to “jello”, with lumps, and a gritty precipitate was also noted. THIS IS MOST ALARMING as many (most ??) folks that I know generally squeeze these bottles by hand to fill the differentials directly without the potential mess of using a transfer pump. So, WHO would know the status of the fluid ?? Unfortunately, the fluid that Chuck had purchased from a dealership had no discernible date codes…so the actual age was/is unknown. Chuck got rid of the whole lot.

      When doing a little lube research, I found that a general rule of thumb for these fluids is that they have about a 5 year shelf life. Fluid and lube EXPERT Tom Hayden was kind enough to give me a short tutorial on these types of products…noting that this is complex chemistry. Tom MAY get in on this thread in the near future…and if he does, please LISTEN to his advice and explanations. By the way, during my conversation with Castrol UK today, they indeed confirmed the 5 year shelf life of these products…noting that once the container has been opened and resealed, it must be used within 2 years or discarded.

      WITH the background information updated above, I PERSONALLY would RECOMMEND that Gen V owners use only Castrol Transmax Limited Slip LL 75W-140 purchased at one’s local Mercedes dealership…paying strict attention to the date code on the bottle before purchase and use.

      If you have a supply of the older Syntrax with date codes less than 5 years, I would only use it after decanting it (like a bottle of wine) into a clean, clear container to check for separation of the contents, thickening of the fluid, and/or precipitation of components .

      If you have some of the discontinued MOPAR fluid, I would NOT USE IT and would merely discard it in the appropriate fashion.

    • Profile photo ofKurt WadsworthKurt
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      Thank you for posting this here, Steve! Great information to be archived on all forums. Always appreciate your commitment to keeping these cars on the road!

    • Profile photo ofShawn HawalkaHootie
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      Adding a tip to this thread. There are two drain plugs in the diff. The plug on the driver’s side sits lower inside the housing and will drain all the fluid. Use that one when you drain old fluid out.

    • Wesley Angelotti
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      How do we feel about the Royal Purple 75w-140?  asking for a friend with a comp blue ACR

    • Chad Quick
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      Unless RP substantially changed their formula they would be one of my last choices. You can Google testing results of differential fluid.  We called RP products a boutique oil. Lots of effective marketing. Don’t know why one would not accept Steve-Indy’s post as fact.

      FYI I do use a RP oil filter in my Ram 6.4L. My choice is based on testing results not marketing.

    • Profile photo ofBrian HoldingVENOM-TA
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      Steve, how many bottles of the new stuff do you need for a diff fluid change and do you still need the friction modifier as well?

    • Profile photo ofSteve FessSteve-Indy
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      Castrol Transmax Limited Slip LL 75W-140 is the current fluid for Gen V differentials.

      3 of the 500 ml bottles will do it…which is roughly 1.5 quarts.

      No additional friction modifier is necessary when using this formulation.

    • Bill Pemberton
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      Thanks Steve, just had my rear diff service and I showed Fred Ragel ( Viper Tech ) at Woodhouse Dodge your info. They only have the new fluids , but still good data to have in case someone brings in old fluid they bought and stored years back.

    • Profile photo ofShawn HawalkaHootie
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      Just did mine with the Transmax LL 75w-140. Was able to order it online. First time using the little 500ml bottles with the spout and boy are they nice.  Thanks Steve for keeping up with all the info!

      • Elias Yannitsadis
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        in the middle of doing mine now, letting it all drain out. do you guys put any thread sealant of any kind on threads before screwing back on?

    • Profile photo ofShawn HawalkaHootie
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      I put PTFE sealant on the threads since it’s tapered pipe thread. 15 ft-lbs torque. Did the same last time and no leaks and plugs came back out without issue.

    • ViperTony
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      Thank you Steve you are an incredible asset to the Viper community!

    • Steve Pryce
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      Thanks for the info.

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