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#2421 In reply to: Gen 1 Oil Change |
How do I find the Mopar White Oil Filter. I went onto the Mopar parts site and they only let me look up cars since 2000. Is there a part number you might have or a place to buy one?
Thank you
#2420 In reply to: Gen 1 Oil Change |I have always used the Mopar white Viper oil filter on my 1995 which I bought new in 1995. So that’s a long time. No problems. Oil:I have used whatever what was current for the Viper/SRT vehicles. I started with the Mobil 1 10w-30 back in 1995. Right now I am using the 5w-40 Pennzoil Platinum Euro and I plan to stick with that. I send a sample of oil for an oil analysis after every oil change. The engine shows no wear at 12,000 miles. So this combo has worked for me.
#2419Topic: Gen 1 Oil Change in forum Gen I / Gen II |I belong to a few groups about Vipers and opinions on what oil filter and what oil to use vary. I would like to do my first oil change on my 1994 Gen 1 but want to make sure I get the right filter and oil back into the car. Thoughts?
Thank you
Trevor
#1658Topic: HVAC O-Ring Repair in forum General |Looking for some guidance. Noticed I have a bit of a leak by the two AC lines going to top of compressor. Looks like just the O-Rings on those lines gave out. AC still works at this time. 2013 GTS.
I read through the repair manual and am getting hung up on the replacement of compressor oil. Does that oil evacuate with the refrigerant? Meaning, let’s use an extreme example of a large leak where all pressure is lost in the system. Would all the oil also be missing and need to be added? Or will you only lose oil by removing/replacing a component like the compressor?
#1654 In reply to: Up grade suspension |In a similar situation – I’ve decided to go with the penskes I think, but thoughts on those vs the KW V3s would be appreciated. A few more questions for those in the know:
Is the rubbing on full suspension compression normal? I’m assuming an adjustable coilover will allow me to tune that out, or at least make it not awful. I’ve got some nice wear marks on the splash guards which I’m sure will be fun to replace.
Is there a suggested vendor? Other than Penske themselves I guess.
I’m assuming they don’t come with springs. Is there any prior art on how to choose a set of springs or can/should I just reuse the factory?
#1647Topic: For Sale: 2008 Viper SRT-10 *Violet Color* in forum Gen III / Gen IV |Here is your opportunity to own an amazing 2008 Dodge Viper SRT-10 convertible in beautiful Viper Violet Pearl Coat with silver stripes and only 11,830 miles!! Clean IL title in my name, no accidents, no stories! I’m the second owner. I bought it from a long-time local Viper club member. I have the complete service history and the original window sticker. Over $20k in improvements and all maintenance is up to date!!
· The Viper violet color is extremely rare. I believe they only did that color in 2008 and only 11 were convertibles. The color changes from a deep purple to navy blue depending on how the light hits it! The silver stripes are painted the factory silver color and buried perfectly under the clear coat for a smooth finish (prior to the previous owner taking first delivery).
o Autoform SRT Convertible ACR style rear wing also painted Viper Violet with silver stripes and checkering
o Valve covers also painted violet
· Exchanged interior to grey / black 2-tone
· Mopar Performance ECM (P5155254) – this really wakes up the VVT engines on the Gen 4, especially with high flow exhaust. I also have the stock ECM. Note: It is not CA emissions legal with the performance ECM and high-flow cats installed but IL waived emissions as a classic car. I can walk the potential buyer through the process, if local.
· Belinger headers, high-flow cats, and exhaust
· Polished Sidewinder performance wheels with new TPMS sensors
· Custom carbon fiber dash and center bezel (also have the stock dash and center bezel painted violet)
· Kenwood double-DIN radio + navigation + backup camera + bluetooth
· 5-point race harness (installed in anticipation of the Viper event in Colorado in September 2023)
· 2” seat lowering kit (driver’s side)
· Chrome roll bar loops, gas door, and side grills
· Stainless steel door sills
· New brakes: DBA 2-piece performance rotors and Hawk street pads (less than 700 highway miles)
· New front and rear tires: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires – less than 700 highway miles
· New front and rear sway bar links (stock boots were aged / cracked)
· Fluids replaced: transmission, differential, high temp brake, and oil – less than 700 miles
· All service performed by a certified Viper technician at Roanoke Motors.
We’ve loved being a part of the Viper community for the last 12 years and planned to keep this one for a long time. However, plans have changed, and we have decided to relocate our family to New Hampshire this summer. We do not need to sell but the funds will help make the transition easier. Asking $85k. Located in Elk Grove Village, IL 60007 (20 miles from Chicago’s O’Hare airport). I also have a full set of the H spoke wheels in perfect condition that I would include at the listing price.
- This topic was modified 1 year, 5 months ago by Eric Ludewig.
- This topic was modified 1 year, 5 months ago by Eric Ludewig.
#1622 In reply to: Latest Info on Gen V Viper Differential Fluid |Unless RP substantially changed their formula they would be one of my last choices. You can Google testing results of differential fluid. We called RP products a boutique oil. Lots of effective marketing. Don’t know why one would not accept Steve-Indy’s post as fact.
FYI I do use a RP oil filter in my Ram 6.4L. My choice is based on testing results not marketing.
#1360 In reply to: Up grade suspension |I would go with the BC racing coil overs they are a better quality product. While you’re in there make sure you check the rear lower shock mount and check your control arm bushings. The factory shocks are probably pretty tired causing you to bottom out on the track. Check out Doug Shelby Engineering’s lower shock mount. The last time i looked up coilovers for a customer amazon had the best price on BC Racing coilovers. You can also look into Penske racing shocks but they are pricey last time i looked they were almost 6k at my cost.
#1338Topic: Up grade suspension in forum Gen III / Gen IV |My car is bottoming out when I track it. Also it sits very low. It has stock shocks and springs. 2008 with 34300 miles. I track it 2 to 3 times a year. What coilovers would you recommend? Looking at Aldan American Double Adjustable, or BC coilovers. Thanks for the help.
What follows is a slightly modified version of an annual reminder letter sent to the IN/KY VOA Members.
“Starting the 2023 Driving Season: Some Points to Consider…Some Old, Some New”
With the relatively mild Winter we have experienced thus far coupled with some unusually warm, sunny February days that we have seen, I am betting that we are entering the Spring Driving Season earlier than usual. As we begin to “awaken the Snakes”, there are a few points that I feel are worth considering for the well being of both you and your Viper. These observations are based on personal experiences, the many calls that I get from owners around the country (and world), experiences plus wisdom graciously shared by active, seasoned Viper Techs, and information from the club forums.
BE SURE to activate and confirm FULL INSURANCE COVERAGE with your carrier BEFORE you even start your Viper.
Check your tire pressures COLD and adjust them to the recommended level…which is 29 psi for ALL stock Viper tires from 1996 forward. In most cases, they will be on the low side…the exception being those of you who hyper-inflate them for storage. Expect to feel some tire “thumping” for the first couple of miles. Tire pressure sensor problems??…recheck pressures, then call me before you act further.
PLEASE check to see that your fluid levels are adequate…and pay special attention to the clutch fluid reservoir. If this is low, you MAY have a failing clutch slave cylinder. If this happens, depressing the clutch pedal to the floor MAY NOT disengage the transmission…meaning that when the Viper starts it may move unexpectedly in the direction of the gear selector’s resting position. This has been associated with unexpected excursions into walls, garage doors, and tool boxes…just in our Region. NEVER START A VIPER WITH THE SHIFTER IN ANY GEAR…ALWAYS SELECT NEUTRAL AS YOU ENTER THE CAR !!!
SECURE all caps after checking fluids !! NOTE: Gen V Vipers share clutch fluid with the brake fluid reservoir…thus the 2013-2017 Vipers lack both a separate clutch fluid reservoir and a clutch fluid/air bleeder.
REMEMBER: COLD temperatures, COLD tires, and OLD tires mean LESS traction…for starting, turning, and stopping !!!.
As you first start the Viper, watch the oil pressure to be sure it comes up promptly. DO NOT rev the engine or do aggressive acceleration until both water temp and oil temp are in normal range. For Gen I and II Vipers which were built without oil temp gauges, remember that the oil temp lags way behind water temp…so allow a good 10-15 minutes (or MORE) on cool/cold days before driving in a “spirited fashion”. The “thicker” oils such as 15W-50 take longer to reach optimal operating temperatures.
Speaking of oil…has anyone else noted that the shelf life of Mobil 1 is 5 years versus the 4 year shelf life of the Pennzoil currently supplied by dealerships for 2013-2017 Vipers? Last year some interpreted this question (correctly) as a not-so-subtle preference on my part for an oil other than the Pennzoil for Vipers. READ the next section CAREFULLY… as it contains a link to AN IMPORTANT POST by Viper engine designer Dick Winkles concerning choice of oils which showed up on Facebook in late Fall, 2022. For some reason, I could not copy Dick’s post, so I took a couple of screen shots that I sent to “Steve M” who was kind enough to post them on the Forum (now the Legacy Forum). In case the following link fails, the thread title is “Another engine oil thread” and is in the Gen V section of the “Legacy Forum”. SEE POST #14 !!! Here is that link: https://driveviperforums.com/forums/forum.php
Watch for Check Engine Lights (CEL’s) and any other warning lights. Address these issues promptly using on-board diagnostics, an OBD II code reader and/or call for help. I carry an inexpensive OBD II code reader in every Viper. The type one wants is CAN bus capable as well as having the ability to clear codes…which in an emergency, can temporarily get a Viper out of limp mode. There are still a few OBD I and II capable code readers available in the market place that one can use on Gen I’s.
At some point during your drive, turn on the A/C to check its performance. I like to do this on every drive (be it hot or cold outside) just to keep seals/O-rings lubricated. If your A/C is low on charge, you may need a formal diagnosis and service. Some of us have been known to add a little R-134a as a “test”…including the fluorescent dye to aid the technician in locating a possible leak. Schrader valves on the high and low pressure ports as well as O-rings are the most common causes of leaks. Admittedly, I do try to go without A/C in Gen I and II Vipers because the fans turn on as A/C is activated…which puts an electrical load on the fan wiring harness which are known to fail over time.
Another tip on the HVAC system SPECIFICALLY for Gen I and II Vipers: keep the blue/red temp dial on RED the full year around so as the heater core is not isolated from the coolant flow which carries anti-corrosives. Hopefully, this will extend the life of the heater core…which are known to leak on Vipers found in hot climates where heat is seldom selected (i.e. the water valve to the heater core remaining closed most/all of the time). The selection of RED WILL NOT inhibit the A/C function (if installed) as it is a separate duct system from the heater system. Trust me on this !!! 🙂
Try to get some fresh, “Top Tier” gas into your Viper as soon as you can. Many use a bottle of Chevron’s Techron gas additive/injector cleaner at the start of the season. While not a fan of additives in general, I admit to doing this myself. If you decide to do this, follow the directions on the bottle…adding it to a full (or nearly full) tank of gas for proper mixing.
As I get a LOT of “keys locked in trunk/car” calls, I strongly suggest carrying two sets of keys on the road. This means working key fobs as well. I do carry fresh lithium batteries for the fobs as a backup. IF you do have a misadventure in this area, please call me ASAP as I might be able to help you gain access…depending on the year and model. The same advice (CALL ME) applies to alarm issues… especially “alarm shutdown” (VTSS…Vehicle Theft Security System) of the engine that can occur on Gen I and early Gen II Vipers.
Vipers need good, fully charged batteries to function reliably. Many of us keep them on a battery tender all year…but this is not a 100% guarantee things will go well. More than once, I have observed a “green light” on a tender, taken the car out for a drive, and had problems on the next startup…all due to an aging battery. This is much less of an issue if one uses AGM batteries instead of the standard flooded lead acid batteries commonly supplied. Once one has a shorted cell, it can be very hard to even jump a Viper and achieve a startup. When checking and/or changing a Viper battery, be sure to check the cables for signs of corrosion where they exit the connectors to the battery. Also, check to see that the point of attachment of the battery ground cable to the frame is indeed tight and secure.
There are a few things that I carry with me in a Viper…jumper cables, a small code reader mentioned above, a one inch long bare metal paper clip, fire extinguisher, cell phone, flash light, spare fuses, duct tape, and a small lithium battery jumper pack. I am sure that others can add to this list.
For those of you with OEM navigation and other connected services, expect that these things may not be fully functional with the disappearance of 3G cellular service at the end of 2022. There MAY be alternative solutions.
I am sure that many of you (and I ) will think of other issues to consider…if so, share them !! “It takes a village…”
Happy Spring…enjoy your Viper !!!
Steve Fess, Membership and “Special Op’s” Coordinator, VOA IN/KY Region, Inc. 317-402-9013 “YOUR Viper Owners Association working for YOU !!
#1206Topic: Tracking all MEDUSA, TARGA, and VLF production vehilces in forum Gen V |Trying to keep a historical file of all MEDUSA, TARGA, and VLF vehicles produced.
Sources say 15 MEDUSA’s produced by PREFIX at a cost of $35,000 for the conversion:
#- Year- Type Car- Vehicle Identification – Hood Type – Color and Notes
00 2014 MEDUSA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – 2 Vent Hood – MULE – Gunmetal w/Black Ghost Stripes not sure what badge # may be #9?
01 2014 MEDUSA 1C3ADEBZ4EV100117 – 2 Vent Hood – White – Black Interior – Red Seats – w/ red roll bar added after delivery
02 2014 MEDUSA 1C3ADEAZ9EV400009 – 6 Vent Hood – Black – TA interior – TA w/MEDUSA badging – Orange badging and Snake on hood – 7 miles when sold by Viper Exchange
03 2014 MEDUSA 1C3ADEAZ8EV100638 – 6 Vent Hood – Stryker Orange 3/10 Badge
04 2014 MEDUSA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – 6 Vent Hood – Styker Purple – Black Interior
05 2014 MEDUSA 1C3ADEBZ1EV100205 – 2 Vent Hood – Black – Black Interior – Red drivers side and Black passenger side engine covers – 5/10 Badge
06 2014 MEDUSA 1C3ADEBZXEV100347 – 2 Vent Hood – Dk Grey w/Red Interior and TA 1.0 Spoiler
07 2014 MEDUSA 1C3ADEAZ6EV100444 – 6 Vent Hood – Silver w/Black SRT Stripes
08 2014 MEDUSA 1C3ADEBZ0EV100020 – 2 Vent Hood – Red was later converted in 2018 into a Pearl Black VLF Convertible Force-1
09 2014 MEDUSA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – VVVVVVVV – CCCCCCC Stryker Green?
10 2014 MEDUSA 1C3ADEAZ4EV100202 – 6 Vent Hood – Yellow 10/10 Badge11 201X MEDUSA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – VVVVVVVV – CCCCCCC – No Medusa Plaque for Dash
12 201X MEDUSA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – VVVVVVVV – CCCCCCC – No Medusa Plaque for Dash
13 201X MEDUSA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – VVVVVVVV – CCCCCCC – No Medusa Plaque for Dash
14 201X MEDUSA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – VVVVVVVV – CCCCCCC – No Medusa Plaque for Dash
15 201X MEDUSA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – VVVVVVVV – CCCCCCC – No Medusa Plaque for DashXX 2017 MEDUSA 1C3BDEDZ0HV200043 – 6 Vent Hood – Silver ACR Stripes – may not be a PREFIX Car?
XX 2014 MEDUSA XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX – 6 Vent Hood – Red – Black interior was not be a PREFIX Car – Self built by Shane – used the panels obtained from VLF
XX 2013 MEDUSA XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX – 6 Vent Hood – TBD – TBD interior under construction and is not a PREFIX Car – Self built by meSources say 17 TARGA’s, which included 2 ACR’s, produced by PREFIX – at a cost of $12,000 – $15,000 for the conversion:
#- Year- Type Car- Vehicle Identification – Hood Type – Color and Notes
01 0000 TARGA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – 6 Vent Hood – MULE – Blue GTS – Dark Blue w/White Stripes
02 0000 TARGA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – 6 Vent Hood – White GTS – Black Interior – w/TA 1.0 spoiler
03 0000 TARGA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – VVVVVVVV – Y/Orange Corsa America car – (unsure of TARGA production #)
04 2015 TARGA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – ACR-E Hood – Silver ACR – w/Black and Red ACR Stripes – (unsure of TARGA production #)
05 2013 TARGA 1C3ADEBZ3DV400679 – 2 Vent Hood – Black GTS – Black Interior – w/Silver Stripes – (unsure of TARGA production #)
06 0000 TARGA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – VVVVVVVV – Blue GTS – Launch Ed Blue w/White Stripes – (unsure of TARGA production #)
07 2015 TARGA 1C3ADEAZ3FV510362 – 6 Vent Hood – Y/Orange TA 2.0 – #7 TA Badge – (unsure of TARGA production #)
08 2015 TARGA PRIVATE NoVINNoVIN – 6 Vent Hood – Black – w/TA 1.0 Spoiler (location = Qatar)
09 0000 TARGA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – VVVVVVVV – CCCCCC – NNNNNNNN
10 0000 TARGA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – VVVVVVVV – CCCCCC – NNNNNNNN
11 0000 TARGA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – VVVVVVVV – CCCCCC – NNNNNNNN
12 0000 TARGA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – VVVVVVVV – CCCCCC – NNNNNNNN
13 0000 TARGA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – VVVVVVVV – CCCCCC – NNNNNNNN
14 0000 TARGA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – VVVVVVVV – CCCCCC – NNNNNNNN
15 0000 TARGA VINVINVINVINVINVIN – VVVVVVVV – CCCCCC – NNNNNNNN
16 2016 TARGA 1C3BDECZXGV100077 – 6 Vent Hood – Red ACR – w/Black and Black ACR Stripes – (unsure of TARGA production #)
17 2017 TARGA 1C3BDEDZ2HV500456 – ACR-E Hood – Silver ACR – w/Black and Red ACR Stripes – Demonic Red leather Interior (unsure of TARGA production # but Prefix invoice #005615 dated 09/19/2017)Sources say 5 VLF FORCE-1’s produced by VLF – at a cost between $275,000 – $325,000 each – sold exclusively through BJ-Motors:
#- Year- Type Car- Vehicle Identification – Hood Type – Color and Notes
00 2018 FORCE-1 1C3BDEAZ7GV100167 – VFL Hood – Light Silver w/Tan Interior with Wine holder – show car
01 2018 FORCE-1 1C3ADEAZ0FV510312 – VFL Hood – Blue/Grey w/Red and Black Interior
0X 2018 FORCE-1 1C3ADEAZ0FV510187 – VFL Hood – Med Silver w/Red and Black Interior
0X 2015 FORCE-1 1C3ADEAZ9FV510186 – VFL Hood – Med Silver w/Tan and Black Interior
04 2015 FORCE-1 1C3ADEAZ0FV510318 – VFL Hood – Blue/Grey w/Red and Black Interior
05 2017 FORCE-1 1V9FCV507HA196001 – VFL Hood – Gunmetal Grey Convertible – Black Interior – show car
06 2014 FORCE-1 1C3ADEBZ0EV100020 – VFL Hood – Pearl Black MEDUSA converted to a VLF Convertible – for Private Collector – May have new VIN if VLF re-registered it – spring of 2018 when I last saw it.Last VLF Force-1 built was sometime in October of 2018.
On the VLF there are articles that state there a 4 Coups and 1 Roadster – However, I saw the second Roadster being built with paddle shifters. Not sure why there are 5 VIN’s out there for Coups but that is what I found (312 and 318 maybe the ones that should be one or the other as all the others match but the last digit, they also have the same interiors in both cars but the research show two different years for them – BJ-Motors bought 50 GTS Vipers for production into VLF Force-1 vehicles as they were the exclusive sponsor/dealer for these vehicles. As a result of the VLF production not being completed, BJ Motors has a ton of VLF rims because they never followed through with the conversion on all the vehicles and BJ motors procured the rims, suspension, and controllers for these vehicles. Originally, when VLF received the vehicles, they just threw away most of the Viper panels as well as headlights and taillight. That is where I came in, I talked to VLF, on the day the Conner Plant closed its doors forever, about selling the parts instead of trashing them. The only part we could not come to an agreement on was the 2-vent hoods which, to this day, have very little desirability by the Viper community making the selling of the hoods a monumental task.
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